The feud continues
by
Malcolm Mills and
Frank Hurtte
This issue, our
feuding rivals are skirmishing amid the twisting pathways not unlike
those found in the Old Mountain hills of Iowa. Hatfields and McCoys?
You ain’t seen nothing yet!
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Cornhusk
Hurttefield squinted hard with his good eye down the rusty,
bent barrel of his grandpappy’s blunderbuss at his target
below. The worst varmint of all, those McMills was canny
prey. Slipperier than a barrel of buttered eels. Every time
you thought you had one it would somehow squirm out of your
grasp. Not this one.
They was also
stinkin’, theivin’, account stealin’ skunks besides. You
couldn’t trust a McMills fer nothin’.
T’was bad enough
they done stole our bestest moonshine still and squealed to
the revenuers but now they done made off with our favorite
hog.
It set his blood
ter bilin’ just dwellin’on it. Cornhusk took aim. He had
this McMills dead to rights and dead in his sights. Say yer
prayers, McMills. |
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Hurtte
Speaking
for sales:
Frank Hurtte of River
Heights Consulting is a 28-year veteran of the
distribution world. He cut his teeth wholesaling
automation products to operations across the great
breadbasket of America. Purchasing agents tremble at the
sound of his name while engineering guys hail him (and
his doughnuts) the undisputed Champion of Sales Causes
and Lamentations. |
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“The
Destroyer” Mills
Speaking for procurement:
Malcolm
Mills of
Tough World.Net is a 22-year veteran of professional
purchasing, hailing from the competitive world of
mining, gas and oil projects, naval and aircraft
subcontracts, and a number of major manufacturing
operations. The mere mention of Malcolm-the
Destroyer-Mills has been known to produce 10 percent
price decreases (from the toughest salespeople in town)
prior to bid submission. |
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Frank (Hurttefield):
Malcolm, in your article “The Procurement Conundrum” in a previous
issue of Progressive Distributor, you pontificated on why
salespeople need to be kept off the plant floor. Come on now, you
can’t be serious? Are you saying the product expertise, the
problem-solving skills and the troubleshooting abilities of today’s
sales team aren’t valuable?
Distributor sales organizations today invest more time and money
than ever before learning how to successfully apply their products.
Many distributors employ product specialists who are walking
encyclopedias of customer solutions. Are you saying keep them off
the plant floor, too?
I know literally hundreds of salespeople who visit the actual people
who make things happen — the guys responsible for keeping product
flowing out the door and revenue coming into the coffers — with the
idea of showing them new and better ways to get the job done.
So, Mr. Procurement Big Shot, how does this information get to them?
Malcolm (McMills):
Hmmm. Pontificated? Mr. Hurttefield, I swear you done swallered a
dictionary or two of late. Frank, you bushwhacking Old Mountain
hillbilly, if you keep this up you’re just going to hurt yourself
treading on your own tongue. Anyway, your spittle just wet the
powder on that decrepit musket of yours.
When sales folk sell directly to the floor, the first thing they are
doing is circumventing the Purchasing Department. That’s poor
planning — worse policy — and could be very hard on your good eye
when it backfires on you. In the article, I was referring to the
salesbilly varmint who cuts corners and sneaks in the back door when
he knows it’s against company policy to do so. I was talking about
the underhanded sleaze ball who snowballs the mechanic or anyone
else who listens to his/her sales pitch and which results in an
unauthorized purchase.
When this happens it screws up every department from
Warehouse/Receiving, Quality and Incoming Inspection to Accounting
and Procurement when it arrives.
Get your kin in the game, Frank. No one is arguing that many
salespeople sent to visit plants are not ex- (or present) engineers
or highly trained professionals. That’s not in dispute. What IS in
dispute is the METHOD a few critter hunting salesbillies use in
order to get in the door and on the floor.
But let’s back off a bit here cousin-in-law, because I think I’m
actually beginning to sense a glimmer of hope for you here. You may
not actually be as white lightning whacked as I first thought.
Didn’t you say, “salespeople who visit the actual people who make
things happen”? We seem to be having a breakthrough. Focus that good
eye of yours and talk to me. And stop trying to dig your way under
the fence. Walk around to the gate; I’ll have security let you in.
Frank (Hurttefield):
We both agree that we have to build value. And, it’s good to hear
you understand that often the salespeople really are engineers and
trained professionals. The truth is, some have 10, 15 and 20 years
of experience identifying new technologies and offering suggestions
for improving existing processes.
When we ask purchasing guys to help us understand the business —
they go into a song and dance about building partnerships. They tell
the sad story of customers who expect better quality for less money.
I suggest to you they don’t understand the value of having more
products, built with better quality coming out the door.
There should be a common ground here. You have stated time and time
again that we have to work together to be competitive. Often, small
issues have a way of being not passed along from plant floor to
purchasing desk.
Malcolm (McMills):
You’re covering a lot of ground here, Frank. What say we go back to
your first beef? (Or should I say pork?) You asked if salespeople
didn’t recognize the solution to the problem. Well, now, many times
they do. In fact, many times better than the customer does.
But sales technical reps really ought to know the solution to the
problems, because if the purchasing guy called them, it was because
the product the company sold them FAILED and they’ve already tried
the obvious which won’t void the warranty. So, they better have the
solution. And don’t tell me your people repair equipment they don’t
sell. And if you sold them the cheap “crap” you are referring to,
then they best learn to fix the cheap crap.
As for the common ground, yes buyers and sellers need each other,
but with all of the competition out here, you aren’t the only fish
in the stream. Here’s a thought for you. You spend a lot of money
and effort promoting your customer’s products but how much are you
spending promoting yourselves as professionals? It’s like promoting
engine oil without any thought to the engine.
Frank (Hurttefield):
True, sometimes the things we sell fail. But, it is here that
customer value kicks in. Let me share a true story of how this
works. One salesman I know sold a number of motors to be used on a
system in a food processing plant. After several months, a motor
failed; then another one failed, and so on — all in rapid
succession. By the time the third motor failed, the maintenance and
purchasing departments were both mighty hot.
Our sales hero went in to investigate. The motor was installed
correctly; the operation seemed to be working fine. He arranged for
three no-charge replacements (he ate the expense) and continued to
monitor the situation. It was on one of these “unauthorized” plant
visits that he spoke to a member of the third-shift maintenance
crew. During their discussion of the motor failure, it came out that
the customer had begun using a weekly sanitation process.
Pressurized steam was used in the whole department. The motors were
especially susceptible to problems because they were not designed
for high-pressure wash down.
Without this unauthorized detective work, it might have been years
before the root cause was identified and fixed. It wasn’t a matter
of “cheap crap.” These were great motors — they just weren’t
designed for the high-pressure application.
Malcolm (McMills):
You’re making me sound like your broken gramophone, Frank. Read my
lips, Mountain Buddy. That was NOT an unauthorized visit. That was
an authorized visit. It was approved and it was cleared by security.
It was by invitation.
It was also great work IF the motor supplier wasn’t originally asked
to visit the environment first or to quote on wet environment
application motors and switchgear. (It would be even greater
leverage, by the way, if your friend had quoted on the more
expensive weatherproof motor but the purchaser had opted for the dry
conditions motor to save money.)
Myself, I’d want to know the original specs and type of motors the
supplier replaced (if that was the case). But either way, this is
the kind of information a distributor must include whenever you have
the opportunity to expound on your added value to your customers.
You can do it verbally when you follow up on an RFQ, include it in a
quotation or drop it in casual conversation. Use your imagination.
Mention it during negotiations with that supplier on any tough issue
from that day forth.
So here’s another hot tip. Never allow a triumph to become ancient
history until you have extracted every possible gram of residual
value from the coup. (Just don’t be hurt or surprised when the
customer at some point says, “What? You only did exactly what we
expect of service reps. That’s why we buy from you.”) Whoosh.
Instant deflation.
Next subject: Acquisition costs/partnerships. Notwithstanding the
times when you actually do shine as a supplier, there may be a
bigger reason why a customer may not want to pursue or continue a
partnership relationship with you. (No, you still can’t crawl in
under the fence.)
What if the total “acquisition” cost of doing business with your
historically unreliable company is just way too high for the buyer?
What if your company history leaves a bad taste in the purchaser’s
mouth? All the product expertise in the world can’t erase past poor
service, my possum-breathed friend.
You may be just too expensive to do business with. What did we call
it in the last issue? Negative value? Well, maybe that’s you, big
fella.
Lastly, of course there definitely are ways to mitigate these
problems and work together. Many of them are listed in the book I
wrote (and you claim to be saving up to buy.) I’ll trade you a copy
for a couple quarts of BBQ sauce. No, I still haven’t seen your lost
hog.
Frank (Hurttefield):
You make a good point on the acquisition costs. And, we all know the
importance of receiving and transaction costs. But, the “turd in the
punchbowl” is often purchasing guys are taught to block access. We
want to provide information, service and products. The guy in the
trenches wants our information. They want to know what’s new and
innovative. And they often don’t have time to do the detailed
research.
I am going to extend myself and ask the question, “How can we
present our information and still keep the proper information
flowing to purchasing?”
Malcolm (McMills):
First of all, let me tell you loud and clear in your good ear that
the technical expertise provided by supplier reps is frequently
essential. Really. The guys and gals definitely know their stuff and
are pretty quick getting back to us when we call them.
Unfortunately, that’s not the problem.
And you’ve definitely got to lay off the shine for a while because
typically, purchasing folk are not taught to block access. Most
purchasing people are just too darned busy to meet with everyone
seeking an audience, no matter how good the product. Haven’t you
noticed? Purchasing folk call YOU when they want something and are
then more than willing to talk. Right?
On the other hand, when you have a new product that will improve on
the old one, you want to sell it to that same customer. So listen up
and I’ll tell you a trick. What do you do when your moonshine still
isn’t running? You start backtracking along the equipment to find
the problem. Well, you’ve got to do the same thing with your
customer.
Many company policies designate the purchasing guy or gal to be the
single point of contact between vendors and the company, which is
fine in theory but the workload on the purchaser becomes staggering.
There are too many vendors and too many products changing and
improving along with everything else. But they still can’t let
salespeople roam the plant at will because, besides everything else,
it’s a security risk.
But listen. There’s nothing wrong with meeting with the appropriate
engineers or plant forepersons by invitation if company policy
allows it. Did you catch that? By invitation. That means you are
invited. If you do your homework properly, just like troubleshooting
your still, you’ll come to the proper person in the company to speak
with. Do you folks do that? No. You try and sneak under the fence.
Try asking the right person for an invitation. It may or may not be
the purchasing person.
Frank (Hurttefield):
OK, I think we are starting to reach some kind of consensus here. If
the engineer, maintenance person, or production person invites the
salesperson in to talk about a problem or solution — all is fair. If
the conversations (and subsequent research, demonstration, and
refinements) turn into a sale — the purchasing guy will commit to
buying the product from the person who did the work. Correct?
Malcolm (McMills):
Almost, Frank. If the engineer invites you, that’s fine, but if the
maintenance person or the production worker invites you, a red flag
should go up and you should very delicately confirm they have the
authority to do so. In most plants, the floor or department manager
must make that decision, in conjunction with the purchasing person,
not the worker him/herself. There is a whole other set of rules for
after-hours during emergencies; that’s a different scenario, we’re
talking dayshifts here.
It’s like getting a fire permit before you burn. It doesn’t cost
anything and it saves a whole lot of worry.
Frank (Hurttefield):
OK, so here I am talking to the maintenance foreman. Our discussion
turns to the problem of fixing a machine with broken bolts. When a
bolt breaks it takes an extra 30 minutes to make the repair. I
immediately recognize this as an application for a new tool. It
costs more, but it eliminates the wasted time. I commit to training
the maintenance crew on the proper use of this wonder tool.
In this scenario, everybody lives happily ever after. I get the sale
— at a premium. The maintenance men get fewer skinned knuckles, and
your company gets the extra production. That sounds like the way
things should work to me.
So, Malcolm, with that thought, I want to challenge you. Can you
give me 10 rules a purchasing guy could sit down with a hard-nosed
purchasing guy and review for good plant access?
Malcolm (McMills):
I’d rather give you seven suggestions. Your guys can think of three
more if you want.
1) If you hear of a customer undergoing corporate type changes,
don’t hesitate. It’s diligence on your part to phone, e-mail or
snail-mail past contacts for updated information. See if they’re
still there. Do they have the same job? What’s the new policy? If
they schedule an appointment with you, all is fair.
2) Before you call, look up the customer’s Web sites and other
publications. There is exhaustive information on company Web sites,
industry forums, and in the public record. If you find a contact
name that suits your product or service, see if an appointment is
possible. Remember the purchasing rep. Don’t crawl under the fence.
3) Approach procurement with research information. Run a report of
purchases made and analyze the data for trends. It is always
reasonable to expect that purchasing will direct you to the source
for answers to those trends. Note: we are not talking about “lack of
sales volume” questions. Instead, see if there are plant
environmental trends that may be up your alley. You may wind up
selling equipment to fix a problem they are experiencing.
4) Know your own company’s strengths and let the customer know it.
Most distributors have a flagship product or service. We expect that
you will keep our people current on developments in that product. If
there is training or updates available for your equipment, advise
purchasing of the value, benefits (and cost) of this. A word to the
wise; do not use bait and switch tactics if you expect to keep your
reputation with procurement.
5) Promote your
company successes (also be able to prove it). For
salespeople, this should go without saying. But the truth is many
times customers hear all about product and not much about what you
have done to improve process, output or profitability. Start with
procurement but also work it into conversations with the other
contacts you deal with. Good news filters through the plant to the
right places in time. If your story is a good one, tell it.
6) Look for future opportunities to demo, train and promote your
products in a facility. Once you are in, ask for places you can
demonstrate your value. Nothing speaks louder than offering to help
make a product (already sold) more valuable. And, this opens the
door to other contacts and potential sales. Offer a freebie
sometimes.
7) Be professional and give the purchasing rep an overview of all of
your activities on their turf. Nothing says you care more than a
quick overview of the issues and solutions you are working on for
the contacts you already have within the plant. Don’t risk losing
that hard-earned invitation.
Frank (Hurttefield):
Malcolm, I guess deep down under that toothless, shotgun-carrying
exterior, you ain’t such a bad guy. Does this mean we are through
feuding?
Malcolm (McMills):
Nope. Now get out of my office, off my plant floor and don’t go near
that fence. Oh, and try and keep your powder dry. You’ll be needing
it.
This article originally appeared in the
September/October 2007 issue of Progressive Distributor. Copyright
2007.
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